Legislature(2021 - 2022)GRUENBERG 120

04/22/2021 03:00 PM House STATE AFFAIRS

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03:08:17 PM Start
03:10:05 PM Confirmation Hearing|| Department of Public Safety, Commissioner
03:40:05 PM HB63
04:12:10 PM HB123
04:28:23 PM HB148
04:32:00 PM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
+ Consideration of Governor's Appointees: TELECONFERENCED
- Dept. of Public Safety: Commissioner James
Cockrell
-- Public Testimony --
+= HB 63 ALASKA MARINE HIGHWAY OPERATIONS BOARD TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHB 63(STA) Out of Committee
+= HB 123 STATE RECOGNITION OF TRIBES TELECONFERENCED
Moved HB 123 Out of Committee
-- Public Testimony --
+= HB 148 ALASKA COORDINATE SYSTEM OF 2022 TELECONFERENCED
Moved HB 148 Out of Committee
-- Public Testimony --
**Streamed live on AKL.tv**
         HB  63-ALASKA MARINE HIGHWAY OPERATIONS BOARD                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:40:05 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KREISS-TOMKINS  announced that  the next order  of business                                                               
would be  HOUSE BILL NO.  63, "An Act  relating to the  duties of                                                               
the Department of Transportation  and Public Facilities; renaming                                                               
the  Alaska  Marine  Transportation  Advisory  Board  the  Alaska                                                               
Marine Highway  Operations Board; relating to  the membership and                                                               
duties  of  the  Alaska  Marine  Highway  Operations  Board;  and                                                               
providing  for an  effective date."   [Before  the committee  was                                                               
CSHB 63(TRA).]                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:40:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  CLAMAN  moved  to adopt  the  proposed  committee                                                               
substitute (CS) for HB 63,  labeled 32-LS0286\O, Fisher, 4/20/21,                                                               
as the working document.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KREISS-TOMKINS objected for the purpose of discussion.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:41:19 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JEFF  STEPP,   Staff,  Representative   Jonathan  Kreiss-Tomkins,                                                               
Alaska State  Legislature, reviewed  the changes proposed  in the                                                               
CS,  ("Version O"),  which replaced  CSHB 63(TRA).   The  changes                                                               
corresponded  to  amendments  adopted  by the  committee  in  the                                                               
previous hearing for HB 63 [on 4/15/21].                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:47:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  KREISS-TOMKINS removed  his  objection.   Without  further                                                               
objection, Version  O was  adopted as the  working document.   He                                                               
noted  that  there  were  four  outstanding  amendments  for  the                                                               
committee's   consideration  today,   all  of   which  had   been                                                               
introduced and withdrawn during the hearing on 4/15/21.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:48:32 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  STORY moved  to  adopt Amendment  1, labeled  32-                                                               
LS0286\O.4, Fisher, 4/21/21, which read:                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Page 1, line 4, following "Board;":                                                                                      
          Insert "and"                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Page 1, line 5:                                                                                                            
         Delete "; and providing for an effective date"                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Page 6, line 25:                                                                                                           
          Delete all material.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KREISS-TOMKINS objected for the purpose of discussion.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE STORY explained that  Amendment 1 would remove the                                                               
effective date  of January  1, 2022,  to allow  the bill  to take                                                               
effect 90 days after being signed into law.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:49:16 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  KREISS-TOMKINS removed  his  objection.   Without  further                                                               
objection, Amendment 1 was adopted.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:49:32 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  KREISS-TOMKINS moved  to  adopt Amendment  2, labeled  32-                                                               
LS0286\O.2, Fisher, 4/21/21, which read:                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Page 2, line 23, following "system"                                                                                    
          Insert "and a proposed strategic maintenance and                                                                  
     vessel replacement plan"                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE STORY objected for the purpose of discussion.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  KREISS-TOMKINS  relayed  that Amendment  2  would  include                                                               
strategic  maintenance  and vessel  replacement  as  part of  the                                                               
comprehensive plan, as discussed in the previous hearing.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:50:01 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   KAUFMAN    questioned   whether    a   strategic                                                               
maintenance and  vessel replacement  plan already  existed within                                                               
DOT&PF's management of assets.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:50:56 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ROB CARPENTER,  Deputy Commissioner, Office of  the Commissioner,                                                               
DOT&PF, understood  that the Alaska Marine  Highway System (AMHS)                                                               
had  planned annual  vessel overhauls  and long-term  maintenance                                                               
requirements; however, he was unsure  whether those plans existed                                                               
in statute.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KAUFMAN  clarified that  had asked whether  such a                                                               
management plan already existed.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. CARPENTER confirmed that the process existed.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:52:18 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE VANCE asked who in  the department was responsible                                                               
for overseeing strategic maintenance and vessel replacement.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. CARPENTER  answered Captain John Falvey,  the general manager                                                               
for AMHS.   He noted that a vessel  construction manager assisted                                                               
the captain in that endeavor.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE VANCE  questioned how a strategic  maintenance and                                                               
vessel replacement plan would be  communicated through the deputy                                                               
commissioner to the new board if the bill were to pass.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KREISS-TOMKINS  clarified that  Amendment 2 would  make the                                                               
strategic maintenance and vessel  replacement plan a component of                                                               
the comprehensive long-range plan.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  VANCE  asked  how  it would  be  a  joint  effort                                                               
between AMHS, the department, and the new board.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. CARPENTER  understood that the deputy  commissioner of DOT&PF                                                               
would be working with the  Alaska Marine Highway Operations Board                                                               
("the  board") on  these strategic  planning efforts.   He  added                                                               
that  the  general  manager  for  AMHS  reported  to  the  deputy                                                               
commissioner, so  communication would  be ongoing.   Furthermore,                                                               
he envisioned  that the  deputy commissioner  would be  a liaison                                                               
between  the board  and  AMHS to  ensure  that communication  was                                                               
clear in all strategic planning efforts.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:54:52 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  STORY removed  her  objection.   Without  further                                                               
objection, Amendment 2 was adopted.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:55:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  KREISS-TOMKINS moved  to  adopt Amendment  3, labeled  32-                                                               
LS0286\O.7, Fisher, 4/22/21, which read:                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Page 3, line 26:                                                                                                           
          Delete "three-year"                                                                                                   
          Insert "six-year [THREE-YEAR]"                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Page 6, line 11:                                                                                                           
          Delete "one-year"                                                                                                     
          Insert "two-year"                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Page 6, line 14:                                                                                                           
          Delete "one-year"                                                                                                     
          Insert "two-year"                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Page 6, line 16:                                                                                                           
          Delete "two-year"                                                                                                     
          Insert "four-year"                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Page 6, line 18:                                                                                                           
          Delete "three-year"                                                                                                   
          Insert "six-year"                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE STORY objected for the purpose of discussion.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  KREISS-TOMKINS explained  that the  constitutional ability                                                               
to  inhibit  the  governor's  appointees   from  serving  at  the                                                               
pleasure  of the  governor was  nonexistent for  advisory boards;                                                               
therefore, Amendment  3 would implement  a six-year term  for the                                                               
board members [appointed by the governor].                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE VANCE sought to clarify  whether the board members                                                               
appointed by  the governor and  presiding officers  would require                                                               
confirmation by the legislature.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KREISS-TOMKINS deferred the question to Mr. Crocker.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:58:07 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
KERRY  CROCKER, Staff,  Representative  Louise Stutes,  explained                                                               
that  the   proposed  legislation  utilized   existing  statutory                                                               
language  for the  Marine Transportation  Advisory Board  (MTAB),                                                               
which  did  not  require  its  members to  be  confirmed  by  the                                                               
legislature.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  TARR  understood  that  legislative  confirmation                                                               
would require inserting the language  "subject to confirmation by                                                               
the legislature."                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:58:56 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  STORY removed  her  objection.   Without  further                                                               
objection, Amendment 3 was adopted.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  KREISS-TOMKINS  explained  that the  following  amendment,                                                               
Amendment 4, provided that AMHS's  performance measures should be                                                               
communicated to the  public and the media in  an easily available                                                               
manner.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:00:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KREISS-TOMKINS moved to adopt Amendment 4, labeled 32-                                                                    
LS0286\O.6, Fisher, 4/22/21, which read:                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Page 2, line 8, following "AS 19.65.110":                                                                              
          Insert ";                                                                                                         
               (9)  report, in a manner that is easily                                                                      
     available  to the  public and  the media,  including on                                                                
     the department's  Internet website, on the  progress of                                                                
     the  Alaska  marine  highway   system  in  meeting  the                                                                
     performance  goals  established  by the  Alaska  Marine                                                                
     Highway Operations Board under AS 19.65.180(i);"                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Page 5, following line 15:                                                                                                 
     Insert a new subsection to read:                                                                                           
          "(i)  The board shall identify performance                                                                            
     measures  and  set   corresponding  annual  performance                                                                    
     goals  for  the  Alaska marine  highway  system.  These                                                                    
     goals   may   include   fare  box   recovery,   on-time                                                                    
     performance,    and   percentage    of   administrative                                                                    
     overhead.  In  this  subsection,  "fare  box  recovery"                                                                    
     means  the  fraction  of   the  Alaska  marine  highway                                                                    
     system's operating  expenses that are met  by the fares                                                                    
     paid by passengers."                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE TARR objected for the purpose of discussion.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:00:28 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE TARR sought to confirm that the board would                                                                      
identify performance measures, which would be prepared and                                                                      
reported on an annual basis.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:01:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 4:01 p.m. to 4:05 p.m.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:05:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KREISS-TOMKINS  explained that  during the at-ease,  he had                                                               
taken the opportunity  to assess the intersection  of Amendment 4                                                               
and Version O and consider Representative Tarr's question.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:06:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KAUFMAN suggested utilizing  the intent section of                                                               
the CS.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KREISS-TOMKINS  conveyed that  per Amendment 4,  AMHS would                                                               
report  to  the  public  on  its  execution  of  the  performance                                                               
measures  that were  identified in  the short-term  and long-term                                                               
plans.     He   indicated  that   the  goal   was  to   establish                                                               
accountability to the  public and the media in terms  of how AMHS                                                               
was functioning.  He further  noted that the performance measures                                                               
would be identified by the board.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
4:07:29 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  KREISS-TOMKINS moved  to adopt  a conceptual  amendment to                                                               
Amendment  4,  which  would  delete lines  8-15  and  change  the                                                               
statutory  citation  on  line  6   from  AS  19.65.180(i)  to  AS                                                               
19.65.011.    Without  objection,  the  conceptual  amendment  to                                                               
Amendment 4 was adopted.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  TARR  removed  her objection.    Without  further                                                               
objection, Amendment 4, as amended, was adopted.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:09:16 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KREISS-TOMKINS  invited additional comments  from committee                                                               
members on HB 63.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CLAMAN  thanked the  chair for his  extensive work                                                               
with the bill sponsor and members of the committee.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE STORY  thanked the committee  for its work  on the                                                               
current version  of HB  63.  She  believed the  legislation would                                                               
help with oversight and awareness  and ensure that AMHS was well-                                                               
functioning.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:10:19 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  KREISS-TOMKINS  expressed  his appreciation  for  all  the                                                               
conversations,  work, and  contributions  from  the committee  on                                                               
this  piece   of  legislation.    Additionally,   he  stated  his                                                               
appreciation for  the leadership at  DOT&PF.  He opined  that the                                                               
bill  spoke  to coastal  Alaska's  desire  for more  involvement,                                                               
oversight, direction,  and a  sense of equity  for the  future of                                                               
AMHS.   He said he was  excited that the bill  was moving forward                                                               
and expressed his  hope that it would be  a steppingstone towards                                                               
further exploration of a public corporation model.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:11:15 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  CLAMAN  moved  to  report CSHB  63,  Version  32-                                                               
LS0286\O,  Fisher, 4/20/21,  as  amended, out  of committee  with                                                               
individual  recommendations and  the  accompanying fiscal  notes.                                                               
Without objection,  CSHB 63(STA) was  moved from the  House State                                                               
Affairs Standing Committee.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:11:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. CROCKER thanked  the committee members on behalf  of the bill                                                               
sponsor, Representative Stutes, for all their time and effort.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
Cockrell - Letter of Support - NP 4.16.21.pdf HSTA 4/22/2021 3:00:00 PM
Cockrell - Letter of Support - Soldotna 4.16.21.pdf HSTA 4/22/2021 3:00:00 PM
HB 123 Letter of Support - FNA 4.21.21.pdf HSTA 4/22/2021 3:00:00 PM
HB 123
HB 123 Letter of Support - Chugachmiut 4.19.21.pdf HSTA 4/22/2021 3:00:00 PM
HB 123
HB 123 Letter of Support - PPAA 4.21.21.pdf HSTA 4/22/2021 3:00:00 PM
HB 123
HB 123 Letter of Support - ANDVSA 4.19.21.pdf HSTA 4/22/2021 3:00:00 PM
HB 123
HB 123 Letter of Support - CRNA 4.19.21.pdf HSTA 4/22/2021 3:00:00 PM
HB 123
Work Draft - CS for HB 63(STA).pdf HSTA 4/22/2021 3:00:00 PM
HB 63
HB 63 Amendment O.1 - Kreiss-Tomkins 4.21.21.pdf HSTA 4/22/2021 3:00:00 PM
HB 63
HB 63 Amendment O.4 - Story 4.21.21.pdf HSTA 4/22/2021 3:00:00 PM
HB 63
HB 63 Amendment O.2 - Kreiss-Tomkins 4.21.21.pdf HSTA 4/22/2021 3:00:00 PM
HB 63
HB 123 Fiscal Note - Dept of Law 4.5.21.pdf HSTA 4/22/2021 3:00:00 PM
HB 123
HB 123 Letter of Support - Bristol Bay 4.21.21.pdf HSTA 4/22/2021 3:00:00 PM
HB 123
HB 123 Letter of Support - King Island 4.21.21.pdf HSTA 4/22/2021 3:00:00 PM
HB 123
HB 63 Amendment O.6 - Kreiss-Tomkins 4.22.21.pdf HSTA 4/22/2021 3:00:00 PM
HB 63
HB 63 Amendment O.7 - Kreiss-Tomkins 4.22.21.pdf HSTA 4/22/2021 3:00:00 PM
HB 63